150 – The one about The Warriors

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Welcome to episode 150. Today, we talk about The Warriors!

In a future, dystopian New York City, turf gangs and cops rule the streets. When one gang leader tries to bring all gangs together against the cops Coney Island’s The Warriors are framed for his murder and the entire city turns on them.

Join Scott, Randy, Brian and Brian Ibbott as they join a theme gang of their choosing.

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42 thoughts on “150 – The one about The Warriors

    • Am I the only one who attributes this to Twisted Sister? (Twisted Sister song “Come Out And Play” )

        • Dee Snider certainly kept the “Warriors” cult status alive by making this line a sound bite and the title of their 3rd(?) record.

      • I remember the Twisted Sister album, and when DPK did it in the movie I was surprised, because I didn’t know that the TS album/song was a reference to this.

  1. This movie is definitely one of my childhood favorites.
    Wasn’t there a console game recently based on this movie?

  2. Was it ever really established that it was “in the dystopian near-future?” I just figured it was a hyper-exaggerated version of NYC, sort of like how Death Wish made NYC seem like it was all just ruins and gangs with bazookas.

    Speaking of Death Wish, you guys are remiss in not having sacked a Charles Bronson movie yet.

    • Yeah, I don’t think it is set in the future, I think it’s set in 1979. It’s just an exaggerated 1979 🙂

    • Yeah, I always saw it as a ’20 minutes into the future’ type deal. When the Warriors are having their confrontation with the Orphans, Fox even mentions their ‘caseworker’ indicating an active social welfare system. I think it is more a presentation of the gang’s world vs. another world which we barely see, except perhaps in the awkward run-in with the kids coming home from prom.

    • If “Death Wish 3” ever streams again on Netflix, it must trump anything on the schedule. That movie is gloriously Sackable: “They shot the Giggler!”

      I’d like to see the Warriors try and take on Alex and his little droogies Pete, Georgy and Dim.

  3. Did you also realize that James Remar (Ajax) was the main villain, Ganz in 48 Hours.

    I remember this movie as a kid (not seeing it, but all the news around it). It’s funny how the baseball furies are probably the most popular gang from this movie (not counting the Warriors) and their one scene is of them getting their butts handed to them.

    My favorite quote about the movie was Michael Beck who said “The Warriors opened a lot of doors for me and Xanada (his next movie) closed them.”

  4. OK how ironic is it that Robot Chicken did the “Warriors come out to playeeyayyyyy thing” this Sunday?

  5. I wonder if the movie was restored, it looked really good for it’s age. Yes some of the acting was wooden, and the action was somewhat simple, but I found the whole idea (the quest or journey) behind the movie an amazing idea.

    Did you notice that “Game Over Man” didn’t die in this movie?

    Even though I’m apposed to remakes, it would be awesome to see this idea done with over the top gangs, in the style of the Fifth Element. Parts of the Fifth Element are totally outlandish (like everyone looks like a model), but package makes the ride worthwhile.

  6. Ok, I know I mentioned this above but I have listened to more of the show and I feel like I should elaborate. The film is not set in the future and the world is not over-run by gangs. It is set in the late 70s and all the gangs of New York are attending the ‘peace summit’. It is late at night which is why there are hardly any civilians out and about. The film takes place over the one night ending when the sun rises.

    I found it amusing listening to the misinterpretation, though, so thanks for that 😀

    • Its not less realistic than Stringer Bells Model UN with Rules of Order and no one bags on that

    • Except NYC is the city that never sleeps and there’s never ever a moment when civillians aren’t about. The neighborhood in The Wire’s Baltimore are desolate and accurately portrayed. Ever been lost at 2 in the morning in the bad side of Baltimore? I have, gulp.

  7. Do a Google image search for Michael Beck…dude looks just like he did back in the day, just with grey hair. Bonus points for him cause he got to make out with Olivia Newton John in Xanadu (HUMINAHUMINAHUMINA!!!!!). Penn Jillette still has a podcast on the Adam Carolla network.

  8. This is one of my old school faves. There are a ton of movies that me and a group of friends would watch on TV and never see from the beginning. This was one of them. It wasn’t until years later when I bought it on DVD that I finally finished it. The first X-Box had the warriors game and it received good reviews at the time. I played it and it was fun. The Warriors was a gang of 120 members according to this deleted scene clip youtube.com/watch?v=jA0LxvrO4e8 ( i didn’t want the post to recognize it as a weblink) .

    In the scene when the car explodes, I always wondered if the guy running by was really injured, because you see him getting thrown to the ground. I always thought the timing of the police and the Rogues shooting Cyrus was suspicious. You see Davis Patrick Kelly ( Luther) speaking to someone on the phone, but you never see who. I thought he was a police informant since he was one of the few people we saw with a gun. The Lizzies scene changes that, but that would be an interesting twist for a remake.

    I agree with Randy and I would like to see Zack Snyder do the remake , but have it be Grecian.

  9. Chick-In-The-Bucket: The Warrior’s original “Warchief” went down in a fight during the ralley … was he just left for dead? (haha!) This gang seems to write off its members a little too easily.

  10. The Lizzy’s: The one all-girl gang in the movie and their gang name has to be some definition of their sexuality. That was a bad troupe for me. Much like dropping the F-bomb (no, the other one) this pulled me out of the movie a bit. Couldn’t they have been the Panty Raiders or something?

  11. Whenever you talked about a remake or other movies that have theme gangs, I kept thinking of Mystery Men. I realize that isn’t quite what you were thinking of, because it’s not the same “trying to get home” journey movie The Warriors is, but their gangs are themey. Here’s a clip of them all together – they get named about 1 minute in, except for the Disco Boys, who are featured elsewhere in the movie. Eddie Izzard, their leader, shows up in this clip briefly.

    http://www.anyclip.com/movies/mystery-men/gangs-party/

  12. Quite a disappointing episode. Randy in particular needs to talk less maybe, calling Walter Hill the Michael Bay of his time. What an unintelligent thing to say. The Warriors is an undeniable classic and still holds up today.

    You guys (Randy especially) need to watch this legitimate analysis of The Warriors and see just how far off the mark you are on this one: http://youtu.be/uVSTb2WhhH8

    • Warriors was crap, does that make me unintelligent? Your opinion and mine opinion can disagree, does that make either one of us lesser on the IQ scale? It’s sad that because someone has a different opinion than another they get attacked. 🙁

      • Yes, you do reveal yourself to have bad taste when it comes to film. Your opinion is not sacred.

        • That would also make your opinion not sacred, or in good taste. People can disagree without attacks.

          • Analysis by critics and film scholars much more intelligent than either of us has revealed The Warriors to be both technically and artistically well made. What you or I think is irrelevant. Film Sack’s dismissal of the film reveals how shallow their grasp on what make’s a good movie truly is.

          • Yet you still miss the whole point of my posts.
            I understand what you are trying to say: Intelligence while watching or critiquing movies makes all the difference. Without it I and others are fooling ourselves into thinking our opinions have any merit or weight. In your view we who see films differently need to shut up because our opinions are irrelevant due to our lack of intelligence. Hence the whole reason for my original post, you can have these differing opinions but check your mud slinging at the front door.

  13. Dreamscape was another David Patrick Kelly movie that was previously sacked. Also Ben Horne’s brother on Twin Peaks.

    • He has a great, very Lynchian arrival in “Twin Peaks” if I remember. Doesn’t he arrive cradling two submarine sandwiches- one for this brother and one for himself- during the brother’s family dinner? They both go off snarfing them down without so much as a “hello” to the rest of the family.

  14. Well this movie’s poster frightened me as a kid- I was around 10-11 when it came out. It was infamously “Banned in Boston” after a week when several fights and stabbings near the theater were attributed to its showing. When I finally saw it on cable a few years later it was laughable, even to a 13 year old. If any serious analysis can be applied to this film- all the credit goes to its original inspiration- Xenophon’s “Anabasis”. Can you dig it?

    Oh, and I owe Ibbott an apology for a mistaken thought I had. He attributed the closing song “In the City” to Joe Walsh and I was going to nitpick him that it was the Eagles who actually performed the track (with JW being a member of the band). Turns out this is Joe Walsh’s oringinal verson. Sorry dude.

    The only other movie about crime, gangs, “troubled youth” that came on with such a badass reputation only to age rapidly and not hold up is “Colors” (you don’t know me- fool, you disown me- cool.).

  15. While it’s not quite the same what we have going on in Warriors, my favourite themed gang battle of all time has to belong to the news teams’ rumble from Anchorman. They got the balance of over the top violence and over the top comedy just right and I love how the scene exists as its own little bubble within the movie. However, if you’re talking serious themed gangs – I think you could make a pretty good case for the boys in A Clockwork Orange (I have to admit that I haven’t read the book and am just going on what I can remember of the film, but it seems like in the world that’s been presented there would be loads of ultra-violence practicing themed gangs running around).

  16. I listened to your podcast about the Warriors and enjoyed the “riffs” you guys made on the film. I had watched this on the ABC Friday night movie when I was about 10 and thought it was the baddest (as in MJ bad). Watching it now at first on Vudu and then again on Netflix for the sack, I saw it from a more adult prespective. Being set in the dystopian late 70’s NYC it kinda gave me a Welcome back Lottery vibe. I expected Vinni Barbarino and his sweathogs to jump out of the subway cars with everyone of them packing rubber hoses. A rumble with them would’ve been better than the meaningless bus gang. As skin-headed freaks from either Mad Max or a Ken Wahl period price they were useless filler. Funny thing though most of the movie is useless filler unless you are a young middle-class kid growing up in a suburb in the early 80s. If so, then this movie is still the “baddest”!

  17. Just getting caught up on podcasts after a month or so without my iPod.

    I remember this movie existing when I was about 10 and there was always some sort of heroic mysticalness to it. But I don’t really know what I envisioned about it that gave it that quality. I might have seen a trailer for it the second time I saw Star Wars (at a drive-in, no less).

    I think if this had been made as a comic book mini series, it would still be a classic today. It kind of had a comic-book feel to it.

    Surprised nobody made a “Gangs of New York” reference in their lead-in or Twitter post. Points off, guys, you let me down.

    I really enjoyed the camera work as a sort of street-level tour of/love letter to New York. I think the location shooting was really integral to the quality of the movie, and deserves a little recognition. Which I am providing, here, I guess.

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