316: The one about The Rock

Welcome to episode 316. Today, we watch “The Rock”!

A mild-mannered chemist and an ex-con must lead the counterstrike when a rogue group of military men, led by a renegade general, threaten a nerve gas attack from Alcatraz against San Francisco.

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32 thoughts on “316: The one about The Rock

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  2. This was my first viewing of this film. It was interesting to see so many familiar faces. My problem with it is that Ed Harris, Davide Morse, and Michael Biehn seem like they’re in a different, better film than everybody else. The first few scenes set us up for an intelligent thriller, then it goes into full Bey mode and gets melodramatic, fast. Cage fits right in with a typical overblown performance. I’ve like him better in other things.

    It just feels like Bey couldn’t decide which threads to follow, and then obsessed on the least interesting ones. Was there ever any discussion in DC or SF about what Hummel was trying to achieve and whether it might be a possibility to address at least part of it? I don’t know, because I ended up skimming the whole development section. That’s a film I would watch, because it’s a real problem.

    Re. the nuts and bolts of filming on Alcatraz: You can only film there when the park is closed, so you’re limited to nights, evenings after the last boat leaves, and morning before the first boat-load of people hits the dock. No exceptions, no matter how much you’re willing to pay. I worked on a film there years ago. It was…interesting.

    Also, I see Bey got in his own personal trope: hot brunette in control room listening to her boyfriend’s plight on the radio. Only thing missing was a red silk Chinese dress.

  3. Scott, you mentioned the lives of the guys at the guard shack at the beginning of the movie when they went to get the nerve gas. Weren’t Harris’s crew all using tranquilizer darts? I think it was Morse’s character that said that they had a half hour before the darts wore off.

    I’m with you on him being a sympathetic villain. He’s doing the wrong thing, for the right reason, but only after he has tried doing all of the right things and they have not worked at all.

  4. He was a sympathetic villain to me because he’s Ed Harris. I like Ed Harris– he never seems to give a bad performance, and this movie was no exception. In fact, he might have been the only part of the movie I actually enjoyed, which led to me being a lot more sympathetic than I otherwise might’ve.

    Because DAMN, this was a stinker.
    This was my first viewing. I saw Armageddon first, and liked it more. So put me in that column. They’re both ridiculous, but this one got about 50 eye-rolls to Armageddon’s 30.

    I’d put The Island on about the same level as The Rock (maybe Michael Bay should stop naming his movies like John Grisham novels). Haven’t seen any Bad Boys movies except 2 (because of Film Sack) and that was pretty horrible. If you guys do The Purge, Pain & Gain, Transformers, or The Amityville Horror (which is streaming, btw), I would look forward to those.

    And doing a live sack of one of the Star Wars prequels sounds like a lot of fun, if any of those are/will be streaming.

    • Yes. The Phantom Menace, with all it’s scenes of characters just walking down corridors or sitting in conference rooms allow ample opportunity for the guys to shoot the shit. It’ll be incentive to try try and re-watch the entire thing this time. God knows I’ve tried.

  5. Armageddon is an extended schmaltzy music video with a few explosions at the end. The Rock is a sequence of slow-motion set pieces with an incongruous car chase smashed into the middle of it. I’m partial to the latter over the former myself.

  6. How in the name of Athena’s hoo-haw, didn’t at least a one of you play bass for “Zeus’ Butthole”?

  7. I’ve seen Armageddon twice, most recently earlier this year, and both viewings I thought it was pretty terrible, but the second viewing (many years after the first) it was a stronger feeling. I just watched The Rock for the first time last week, and while I don’t think it was as great as I’ve heard it is in the past, it is significantly better than Armageddon. Sorry Randy, as a 29-year-old target demographic for these movies, The Rock wins.

    That said I do think The Island is better than both of those movies.

  8. Scott, if you hadn’t baited blog comments I would have given you a pass but you’re wrong on this one. The Rock is the worst of many Bey films.

    Not least of all because Bey has simply gotten more slick at being slick, which is after all the only unequivocal attraction of his films. But mostly, The Rock suffers from the one thing that slickness cannot abide: self-importance. Randy nailed it: the plot and the villan’s motivation is absurd in its political obscurity.

    This is, incidentally, the same reason The Minority Report sucks.

  9. I like Armageddon much way more than The Rock. The Rock doesn’t have enough character development, story build up, and the antagonists don’t have enough motivation. By the time you figure out what is happening the movie is over. It seemed rushed the whole time. A good movie indeed, but I think Armageddon is better

  10. I like Con Air the best b/c it’s a Bay movie without any Bay and solidly Bruckheimer. Crimson Tide is a great one too b/c ditto (and Tony Scott). The only true Bay movie I can watch may be the first Bad Boys b/c his dumb formula has been set yet. Still haven’t seen The Island though, or Pain & Gain. I liked The Rock when I saw it in theaters at the time but it hasn’t aged well at all- particularly the non-Ed Harris Gang parts.

    I love Randy picking at Scott’s love of this sub-classic action 90s movie. Again, he speaks truth to power, re: Sean Connery as an actor. Not as a movie star, as an ACTOR. You the man now dog!

    Fun episode.

  11. Just finished listening, and I’m kinda surprised that, regarding the music, no one mentioned The Amazing Race. As it’s produced by Bruckheimer, it pretty much has all the same music and some of the clips you used sounded like right of the show.
    Awesome podcast as always!

  12. First time watching The Rock, I thought it was great.
    I’ve watched Armageddon with my wife some years ago, and have never wanted to watch it since. Don’t care for it at all.
    Scott wins.

  13. It would be nice, when you discuss the soundtrack to a movie you give proper credit to who actually does the soundtrack. For instance you mentioned that Hunt for Red October was very Hans Zimmer, well It was composed by Basil Poladoris, also Pirates of the Carribean: Curse of the Black Pearl was mainly composed by Klaus Badelt and with the assistance of Hans Zimmer. The Rock score was by Hans Zimmer with assistance from Harry Gregson-Williams who did The Martian score. I just though that I would put in my two cents worth for scoring films. Great show though and love The Rock even with its horrible flaws!

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