353 – The one about The Village

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24 thoughts on “353 – The one about The Village

  1. Pingback: 353 – The one about The Village – BRIAN DUNAWAY

  2. I enjoyed The Village, but it is one that I wanted to like. I just like the premise of it. Your complaints about it, though, are fair. And the first viewing may be the best since you don’t know the twists.

  3. The music is really great in the Village, but it is one of those soundtracks that is difficult to enjoy outside of the context of the movie.

    The scene with her at the door with her hand out that you mentioned is the best scene and best musical moment.

    • Oh how I disagree! I’ve listened to this score while working, while doing chores at home, while sitting on my balcony drinking coffee in the morning…

      • I still own the CD, so I gave it another listen. You have me halfway convinced. Most of it is very mellow and meditative. But the loud jump scare parts are way too loud. It lulls you into a relaxed mood and then rudely jerks you awake.

  4. The Airbender movie is terrible, but I blame Hollywood more than Shyamalam. The cartoon has great story, charm, humor, character development, etc. It is something that should never be condensed down to a couple of 2 hour movies (which I think was their original intention).

    The cartoon is great as it is. There is no need to turn it into a live action movie.

    • Hollywood always has a share of the blame in huge budget films but when you have a powerful director like M. night at the helm, I’d say most of the blame lands on him. The scenes don’t even work by themselves. It’s all just so surface level. It’s weird because I’ve heard he’s a big fan of the series but dang, that movie was atrocious.

  5. You may think of Judy Greer as being older because she has an old timey sounding name. Judy Garland, Judi Dench, Admiral Greer…

    I don’t think it was mentioned, but Greer and Howard played sisters again in Jurassic World.

  6. Reigning king of movie slaps: Gene Hackman.

    Hard manslap of Willem Dafoe in Mississippi Burning. Unexpected slap of Sharon Stone in Quick and the Dead. Ernest Borgnine gets one in Poseidon Adventure. Gene Hackman just loves to slap people in the face.

  7. I actually really enjoyed The Lady in the Water. It’s a sweet story that’s still different than his others.

    • If you liked the movie, you should track down the book about tyebproduction of it. Can’t rememebe the name but a google will reveal it. Really interesting!!!

  8. I don’t quite grasp Scott’s dislike of this movie. Its not great by any stretch but I still thought it was decent and worth seeing. Then again I thought Unbreakable was a complete waste of 2 hours I’ll never get back which leads me to the issue of movie critics like Ebert. What constitutes a good move? Well its entirely subjective because it is whatever entertains someone. IIRC, Randy didn’t care much for Blade Runner yet thinks the Village is worth seeing 20 times. Don’t ask me to try and make sense of that. To me this was like 6th Sense, decent but one and done.

    As for the star studded cast, Sigourney Weaver is best known for Aliens and Ghostbusters. By the 2000s she was doing a lot of unknown movies. Same for Hurt. I do not get the feeling either of them were commanding A list salaries at that point in their career. These were two that made their name and impact 20 years earlier. In 2004 who was Jesse Eisenberg? Brody was just coming off the Pianist and was probably the most ‘current’ actor other than Phoenix. Just my two cents.

  9. At about 1:12, Randy brought up a piece of trivia stating that M. Night went over the script “multiple times” to make absolutely sure that there were no contractions in it. Three clips later, a Brendan Gleeson clip is played where he finishes by saying “You’re very kind.”

    I guess M. Night should have gone over it one more time. 😉

  10. I like The Village quite a bit, but I’ve got it couched in my mind with classic Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, and the creepy literature out of period New England where monsters, devils, and all manner of malevolent tree folk lived in the woods. It really is totally implausible, but I think that it’s supposed to be more surreal and tunnel-vision psychological than anything.

  11. First Ennio Morricone and now Vangelis. Stop claiming all my favorite film music composers are dead! I don’t want to have to pause the episode and check wikipedia just to be sure every time. Loved the show though.

  12. Holy smokes was that “Indian” comment cringe! Why is Scott always so angry, almost without fail he’s the only one of you to call someone fat or ugly or bignosed out of pure causticity, without any inherent humor or comedic value. I almost listen to this podcast now in spite of angry Scott, because the rest of you are so insightful and well-versed in film knowledge. I only wish that you wouldn’t let the least informed of your group to dominate so much of the conversation, but I’m very happy that you let Scott know immediately how bad his Indian comment played no matter how he tried to rationalize it away.

    Please keep doing what you’re doing, it’s a great podcast despite these problems.

    • Angry? I’m not angry. Sounds like you might just have a good old personality problem with me. That’s cool. It happens sometimes.

  13. Making a movie-length analogy is a risky proposition. You have to be different enough from the real-life scenario that you’re trying to get the audience to think about that their minds won’t go straight to it, but similar enough that you can reasonably expect them to get there on their own after seeing it.

    The Village successfully got me to think about what it means to keep a population deliberately separate from, and ignorant of, the rest of civilization supposedly for its own benefit, so I guess that makes it a success in my case. But I also disliked its implementation for a lot of the reasons mention in this episode– how could “the elders” have expected to maintain this state of ignorance indefinitely? How could they have fully established it in the first place? Are their kids the most gullible, un-rebellious kids in the universe?

    These were big enough issues to put me off when I saw the movie years ago, and I didn’t re-watch it for this episode. But I also didn’t re-watch it because I remember my main thought being “What kind of monster would you have to be to do this to your children?” And that’s a question I’m pretty sure the movie wanted me to ask.

  14. What a twist! He can direct stuff he doesn’t write ( actually Avatar TLA sucked, so I take that back). He can write stuff and have someone else direct it.

    Split didn’t awe me and I saw the final reveal coming, however people said there was a great final reveal, so I was thinking of what it could be and figured it out that way.

    Brian Dunaway, WHOA. You are normally my hero ( never meet your heroes) but Inhumans was a HUGE disappointment to me (and I love the teleport effect) but I am loving The Gifted’s second episode.

    Scott, Judy Greer has a Bullseye interview on NPR or directly on the bullseye site.

    Jessie Eisenberg and his then probably more famous sister from the Pepsi commercials Hallie Eisenberg.
    Hitchcock eventually resented that people were looking for him in all his films, so he just made them blatant.

    Ask Scott, what if M. Knight put like three Indian actors in his movies and fooled people then he was the fourth?

    Stan Lee is a photograph in the Netflix series, but I always try to find him.

    Its iconic to me ( though I have never seen the movie) The slap in Moonstruck, where Cher slaps Nicholas Cage and tells him to snap out of it.

    • I didn’t know about the Eisenberg sibling connection. Nice. Win goes to the sister. Bicentennial Man > The Village.

      • lol. 🙂 yes, Eisenberg did an interview on NPR ( not gonna lie, those NPR interviews are really good) and he mentioned his sister was the pepsi girl. He had a book about his family he was promoting. Essays , conversations and the like. Title was something with the word brill cream in it.

  15. We watched this movie a few months ago and I was surprised at how good the first 2/3rds were. The moment to moment scene work was just great. Good camera work and editing, it really shows why they used to call M. night the next Spielberg. But his affinity for twists back then seemed to drag the ending down. I’d love to see him direct a great script from a different writer.

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